http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/14/uk-riots-france-2005-parallels
>In France, the tinder was lit at 5.20pm on 27 October 2005. Police were called to a building site in Clichy-sous-Bois, a depressed suburb east of Paris, to deal with a suspected burglary. Two innocent teens heading home after a game of football decided they did not want the hassle of being questioned by the cops, and hid in an electricity substation. Half an hour later, the lights at the nearby police station flickered: Zyed Benna, 17, and Bouna Traoré, 15, had been accidentally electrocuted in the transformer.
>The deaths triggered the biggest wave of civil unrest France had witnessed since 1968. That same night, 15 cars were torched in Clichy-sous-Bois, a classic French banlieue of rundown postwar high-rises that are home to 30,000 people, overwhelmingly second and third-generation immigrants whose parents arrived in France as cheap migrant labour from north Africa.
>By the time the violence finally waned nearly three weeks later, 9,000 cars had been set ablaze in 250 towns and cities from Paris to Marseille, Toulouse to Rennes, Bordeaux to Strasbourg. Schools, community centres, warehouses, police stations, nurseries and even a church had been ransacked. Around 2,900 people, half of them minors, had been arrested, 126 police and firemen injured, and two more people were dead.
>As in London, those who took part were, in the main, young people, from generally disadvantaged neighbourhoods, with high rates of educational failure and above-average unemployment. (who might those people be then? mabye it is these 'youths' we heard about)"There have also been very young rioters," Fize noted. "I remember in Paris six years ago, the children who were involved – as young as 10, but also many adolescents. It was the first time I'd seen that. Now London's seen it too."
Has it really taken this long to make this comparison? This is a map of France and here you have the city centre which is clean, policed and full of landmarks, including Versailles which was built outside the old city. You get to all this directly by a motorway that surrounds the city and cuts through the surrounding area. The area around Paris nobody ever sees, it is a megacity of new suburbs with absolutely no distinguishing landmarks - what we would recognise as an inner city. it is otherwise a world unto itself - an absolute hell on earth totally cut off from everything else.
Over the past thirty years there has been a huge attempt on part of the financial elite to do something similar here in response to the collapse of British manufacturing industry. This means 'regenerating' the city centres for the winners of the new global capitalism. What were once industrial heartlands and imperial cities have been converted into scene type zones for single bourgeois types. Derelict factories and warehouses have been converted into million pound flats and art galleries. the losers get forced out of the area into new council accommodation that sprung up outside the city.
For those who couldn't cut it, generations on welfare, immigrants, the criminal under classes - the lumpen proletariat, they have been zoned off. Large areas like the suburbs of Paris are not policed and the state has no presence. This is why when authorities attempted to enter these areas in a half hearted way the 'community' (as the media calls it) suddenly became aware of themselves as the attack on them unfolded they realised in instance jst how powerful they were. The truth is that what went on last week is the state of affairs all year - the state simply does not control large sections of urban wasteland and that is the truth of it.
Every town has its 'estates' of untouchables, and for the rest of us who are living adjacent to them, it is time to sink or swim as we don't stand a chance unless we learn nationalism to fight back against the parasite. Nationalism is the only real basis for social organisation that has ever existed, the underclass might have their tribe, but it is based on mutual benefit not sacrifice, they all parasite off each other - the British people on the other hand have the ability to surmount any obstacle, we built this country and it would only take the dedicated few to smash the enemy with the mailed fist. Smart, organised, armed - we would go into the areas the state dare not and clear the mess ourselves. Things are not going to get better, with birth-rates and economic meltdown the ghettos multiply over night, the occupied territories more and more clearly defined. If only there was a way to direct the mobs of youths to the up market town centre - that might change the perceptions of some of these liberal trash when their local Costa and alternative clothing store goes up in flames.
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Sebastian Ernst Ronin: The spiritual and cultural detritus of any human population (in political terms commonly referred to as the Lumpenproletariat) cannot be and will not be the political voice of that population. It can brutishly follow; it is incapable of leading. This is the most simple and common knowledge for all political players except, of course, for the dangerously deluded and suicidally retarded who would claim to speak on behalf of the Lumpenprole demographic.
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